You’ll also notice the characters talking about their ears ringing when they wake up on the island post-Jughead. We assumed in season 5 that the flash of light we saw was Jughead’s explosion, but we find out it may have been that with a combination of a time jump, as character’s always complained about ears ringing/headaches/nosebleeds when time jumped before.

As far as Sayid being Jacob, that’s kind of a hard way to weigh in on…I mean, the island DID heal Ben in the same way. The water wasn’t clear though, which suggests something was wrong, probably Jacob’s death. So, Sayid could be a “second coming” of Jacob…too early to tell.

And let’s not forget that Jack’s hair in the safe reality is the same as the one in season 5, he was with a shorter and different hairstyle when he boarded the flight 815 in season 1. So I think he has an “alternate reality awareness”.

Is this a reference to when Richard came with the Black Rock? Was he perhaps a prisoner/slave on the ship, and haven’t Smokey and Richard had any encounters for several hundred years(as we presume the Black Rock.

Was it the people from the temple that bombarded the losties with arrows and spears during one of the timeflashes(season 5), but to which time was that timeflash?

Apologies for the excessive quoting down below, but I needed it to illustrate my point! Lost is so good because everyone has a different take on it, and luckily the writers have something better than we do!

Towards the end of the second episode when the surviving character of “John Locke” was speaking, he constantly spoke about “John Locke” in the third person to Ben, like that he isn’t really John Locke… like he’s something else with John’s likeness for his own convenience, someone else who Richard has already encountered but isn’t really John. Or he’s the islands reincarnation of John in a higher power, the black smoke. He likens himself to the dead John Locke, in that he knew his life before being on the island was pitiful, yet he still wants out.

In the battening down the hatches scene at the Temple, the 1960′s John Lennon translator guy (who has remarkably similar glasses to childhood Ben) was with Hurley:

Hurley: “Guess we’re not getting out of here, huh?”

Translator: “This isn’t to keep you in, it’s to keep HIM out.”

Hurley: “Him? Who?”

—Cut to John and Ben—

Ben: “What are you?”

John: “I’m not a ‘What’, I’m a ‘Who’.”
(A “who” can be a “him”, it can’t be a “what”)

Ben: “You’re the monster.”

John: “Let’s not resort to name calling”

Ben: “You used me, you couldn’t kill him yourself so you made me do it”

John: “I didn’t make you do anything…”
(the ‘I’ hints that it’s not really Locke that Ben sees because even though that’s who he’s talking to)

John: “You should know, that he was very confused when you killed him.”

Ben: “I seriously doubt that Jacob was ever confused”

John: “I’m not talking about Jacob, I’m talking about John Locke”

— Forward a few scenes to Monster Locke and Richard —

Is Richard *really* surprised to see the second Monster Locke? I’m not sure if he is, because he only verbally reacts after the Locke character does. He could be so dumbstruck by the shock, and Locke’s comment is just about Jacob being metaphorical “chains” holding Richard back.

Richard: “Don’t shoot him, don’t shoot him.”

John: “Good to see you Richard, it’s good to see you out of those chains”

Richard: “You?”

John: “Me. (crash bang wallop) I am very disappointed, in all of you.”

— End of my thinking cause I’m about to contradict myself —

Infact, I’ve just had a further thought that blows my previous theory out of the water, the comment by John about “chains” – the smoke monster always had chain sounds grinding all the time… “out of those chains”?

Whatever… I’m rambling! Anyone who got this far I hope it sparked some theories on a couple of very thought provoking episoides!!

Anyways, my favourite quote from these episodes is “Nothing is irreversible” by Jack, good point to the alternating storyline’s / plots or whatever!

Much lost love, and much love for Lost, antonius

Its like two trains riding next to each-other, island jack and safe jack both exist at the same (ish?) time and apparently have limited consciousness of each-other.

Emmett Brown best explained it in Back to the Future 2. At some point in the past, most likely the nuclear explosion, the timeline veered off its original path creating two separate entities.

How does Hurley see the dead people and is Jacob only dead on the one timeline.

Did Juliets consciousness cross the timelines? Seems by what she said to Miles that it did.

Why did they use such crappy CGI on the sunken island?

I like the idea that the temple people are from the black rock, makes sense since they set it up with the discussion between Jacob and MIB with the ship in the distance.

I just wonder how they are going to reconcile the two timelines. Like i really hope we do not see two distinct endings personally. I have a feeling that theywill overlap somehow.

If the Alternate Time Line was created by Jughead, it appears that the explosion destroyed/sunk the island and killed everyone on it. That would mean that Charles Widmore was killed, and Penny very possibly never existed, or if she did it is now in a different reality. This opens up the opportunity for Desmond and Penny to never meet, but also DEFINITELY destroys the chance for a Round the World Sailing Race, as it was hosted by Widmore, which makes it so Desmond doesnt enter the race, which means he doesn’t train for it, which means he isn’t running up and down stadium stairs when Jack hurts his ankle.

Nothing bogus about it!