5 responses to “Fringe: “Subject 13″ – review”

  1. Roberto

    I wonder what age these children are supposed to be. If I had to guess, I’d say 10-12 tops. Definitely not teens. But of course I could be wrong. One possible little glitch: is it possible for a lake in that area to be mostly frozen when Peter was first abducted and then mostly frozen again at least “6 months” later? That would pin down that period from mid November to mid May. I don’t think it’s possible. The moral dynamic for Walternate is a bit different from Walter. He wants Peter back, but knows he is probably safe and disease free since he would have been dead 6 months after his disappearance otherwise. But Walter snatched him not to just get him back, but to save his life. Walter missed a golden opportunity. When he became aware of Olivia’s travel, he should have sent a message with her that they brought Peter over to cure his illness and were working on a way to get him back w/o tearing up the universe. Better yet, he should have sent the message of the cure instead of the kidnapping. Of course, then we would have had no series. But I would have liked to see a reason why it wasn’t done. Obviously Walter had a little tunnel vision looking for a solution originally that returned Peter here. Also, when does the damage start on the other side. Could it have been ‘Belly’ that caused it instead of Walter.

    1. Melissa

      The two lake scenes were 2 months apart, not 6. It was mentioned in dialogue

  2. Professor Crazy

    Thanks for the comment, Roberto! Yes, the age issue is one I wasn’t really sure about, and wrote “teen” or “teens” but both Peter and Olivia seemed younger than that earlier in the episode, at any rate, than later on–they maybe were supposed to be the same age the entire episode, except possibly 6 months older, later. I was thinking of using the term “preteen” which would have probably been more accurate, but I went with “teen,” despite knowing that, at least when Peter was initially brought here by Walter, he was supposed to have been younger than that.

    I do think that Belly likely was the initial cause of the Fringe events, not Walter, but Walternate, I’m sure, wants to blame practically everything bad that’s happened on Walter’s actions, because Walter “stole” his son.

    As to why he didn’t maybe send the message with Olivia, I’m guessing that either he wasn’t completely positive that Olivia was going to the alt-universe that Walternate lives in, or that he logically realizes Peter should be returned, but he is not ready emotionally to have him be returned. Great remarks; it’s always good to hear from you and other fans of Fringe!

  3. Michelle

    Young Olivia and Peter were exactly that: young! not teens, as you somehow perceived them. That would put a whole different spin on this story that is not there. These were children, about eight or nine years old. At the breaking point of having their innocence shattered, and their subsequent reactions to it. Big difference.

  4. Professor Crazy

    Well, Michelle, as I stated in my reply to the last comment, I wasn’t really sure how old they were supposed to be when they met. I knew that when Peter was brought here by Walter, he was supposedly young, but the Peter in this episode, and the Olivia, looked older to me than 8 or 9, though they maybe played younger children than they are. I also wasn’t sure how long after Peter arrived here that the meeting occured, as Walter had been doing experiments with the children for some time (maybe it was stated, but if so, I didn’t catch it). So, I tacked on a few more years to their ages. I did say that, in my above reply, I probably should have stated “preteens.” Still, whether it was puppy love, or a harbinger of a future romance, or whatever, they held hands, which was sweet, and looking back on it, it does seem to me to be a hint of a future romantic relationship. Everyone’s entitled to his/her opinions, of course–this was just my take on the episode. Thanks for your comments!

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