Jamie likes his brother. but perhaps he wouldn’t have wished tyrion’s fate on an innocent kid.

I don’t doubt that LF is in control of any contact between him and Cersei, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t let Cersei *think* she’s in control.

Jay – Tyrion definitely knows. I’m not sure whether it’s in this book or the next one, but he makes several comments (verbal and in his head) that explicitly imply he knows. And Jaime and Cersei know that he knows – or at least, will know, because he makes some of these comments to Cersei. This is a really interesting point to me actually – the idea that despite the bad relationship between them, they still have some sort of amazing family loyalty. Either that, or they all see how they can get an advantage out of holding the info.
“This struck me as odd, and it may be because I don’t know what Jaime means by “grotesque”, but I felt no verbal jousting (at this point) going on or any malicious intent on Jaime’s part,” I agree – this is another cool aspect of their relationship – they have no problem talking about uncomortable matters. When Jaime releases Tyrion from the black cells, Tyrion jokes about being ‘noseless and handless’. More importantly, though, I feel Jaime’s comment needs to be considered on the background of his crippling later, and how he re-evaluates and re-invents himself after it.

@ everyone else – thanks for saying spoilers. keep that up!

@pualo – I don’t think Littlefinger makes moves he doesn’t want to do at the behest of anyone unless he himself is mortal danger. I have no doubts the Cersei wanted Arynn dead, and would do the deed if given the chance, but wanting and willing isn’t guilty. In AFFC we clearly see that Littlefinger think Cersei is close to buffoon and if anybody plays anyone, it’s Littlefinger doing it.

@Zioz Completely always felt that this was very important: “And when Stannis exposes Jaime and Cersei in ACOK, it certainly hurts their position, but people can choose to believe or disbelieve the rumors as is convenient for them.” Doesn’t matter what people think or know, it matter whose in position to do anything about it (or not).

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I believe Tyrion knows about Jaime and Cersei, but they do not know he knows.

Also, I want to mention that even if Bran remembered what he saw, it might not make a huge difference. IIRC Eddard pays little attention to Arya when she tells him about the conversation she overhears between Varys and Illyrio. And when Stannis exposes Jaime and Cersei in ACOK, it certainly hurts their position, but people can choose to believe or disbelieve the rumors as is convenient for them.

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I don’t quite get why Catelyn would want to lie about Bran’s memories/send Bran away. Shouldn’t she want to expose Jaime and Cersei? And although she certainly wants to keep him safe, he is only really in danger as long as Jaime and Cersei’s affair is not widely known — after that, killing him would be closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out.

1. She has a huge motive.
2. He died at just the right time to serve that motive.
3. Littlefinger and Cersei are shown to be allied at times in the future. No reason it shouldn’t have started earlier.

Littlefinger probably acted with Cersei’s knowledge, or even at her bidding. In any event, if Cersei knows what Arryn was researching, she knows that an investigation might lead to her big secret. She has good reason to fear Ned.

Just saw Dinklage in Entourage, seems like if he captures himself in that similarly Tyrion will be the next Benjamin Linus (can’t say AL from Deadwood yet because that would mean he’s the baddest mofo on the planet).

@Jay:

“This struck me as odd, and it may be because I don’t know what Jaime means by “grotesque”, but I felt no verbal jousting (at this point) going on or any malicious intent on Jaime’s part,”

I felt differently, actually. The words spoken by Jaime and Cersei about Bran in this chapter were, to me, just different ways of saying they hoped he didn’t wake up. Jaime’s quote in particular struck me as an affirmation of how Bran SHOULD die, with the fact that he’ll be broken being his justification. They have no way of knowing that he’ll wake up with amnesia, so as long as he’s alive they’re in danger. That’s how I interpreted their words, anyway. Tyrion is so interesting to me because i’ve felt the outsider many times in my life. Haven’t we all? It’s like he’s OUR champion, in some way!

@Elena

I was confused by Jaime’s comment to Tyrion as well, as it seemed to imply that he thought Tyrion AWARE of his relationship with Cersei. But that would be too weird…wouldn’t it? Is Tywin aware?? Ew…

I’m so happy to read your thoughts! I, too, don’t understand how you’ve managed to keep hold of yourself! 😀

Also, I love Tyrion too. He really does get all the best lines in the series.