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		By: michicaust		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3197</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone wrote that

&quot;2) If you’re really in such desperate need of a new home, you still have a go/no go choice at all? Don’t think so, you are all going and you are going to make it work.&quot;

You should have one - and for a very good reason: if the crew has signed up for a month-long mission with the option to extend it to a year-long mission, and they say &quot;no&quot; because it turns out this isn&#039;t for them, they may decide it&#039;s better for their (mental) health to turn back.

Now _force_ them to stay on this ship for a few years more, instead of a few months for the flight back home (another crew could still do this mission) and that mission is doomed for sure.


Another thing is the neccessity of VR for the crew to stay sane - I&#039;d say that _imagination_ (like someone else wrote) is NOT sufficient to make up for the lack of variety in stimuli for the human brain, which is used to _way_ more than one big tube in ten years.. ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone wrote that</p>
<p>&#8220;2) If you’re really in such desperate need of a new home, you still have a go/no go choice at all? Don’t think so, you are all going and you are going to make it work.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should have one &#8211; and for a very good reason: if the crew has signed up for a month-long mission with the option to extend it to a year-long mission, and they say &#8220;no&#8221; because it turns out this isn&#8217;t for them, they may decide it&#8217;s better for their (mental) health to turn back.</p>
<p>Now _force_ them to stay on this ship for a few years more, instead of a few months for the flight back home (another crew could still do this mission) and that mission is doomed for sure.</p>
<p>Another thing is the neccessity of VR for the crew to stay sane &#8211; I&#8217;d say that _imagination_ (like someone else wrote) is NOT sufficient to make up for the lack of variety in stimuli for the human brain, which is used to _way_ more than one big tube in ten years.. 😉</p>
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		By: Eli		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3181</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They should give Ender&#039;s game the ol&#039; CW treatment, bunch of highschool drama in space.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should give Ender&#8217;s game the ol&#8217; CW treatment, bunch of highschool drama in space.</p>
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		By: Elena		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3170</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[D, glad I&#039;m not the only one who thought that&#039;s what was going on with the airlock at first. 

T, you might have been the target audience on this one...someone who&#039;s more of a &quot;mainstream&quot; viewer than a SF geek. The show seemed like it was trying to open itself to non-genre audience, which is not necessarily a knock--it just means it wasn&#039;t going to be the right fit for someone like me (a geek).

E, my sentiments exactly.

I, agreed that it was disappointing the show didn&#039;t bring the action to much of a resolution, since it looks like now we&#039;ll never know. The dark underbelly of experimental (for the channel and its usual audience) tv shows--sometimes you get sucked into something that never sees the light of day....

C, this probably keeps getting compared to sunshine because it is very similar. in my opinion, similar is not necessarily bad as long as it transcends its nods to other films/directors. Sunshine did so. this did not. therein lies the problem.  Agreed that new and original SF stories are rare in film, and that there are plenty of great stories that should have been made into films but for some reason have not...yet....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D, glad I&#8217;m not the only one who thought that&#8217;s what was going on with the airlock at first. </p>
<p>T, you might have been the target audience on this one&#8230;someone who&#8217;s more of a &#8220;mainstream&#8221; viewer than a SF geek. The show seemed like it was trying to open itself to non-genre audience, which is not necessarily a knock&#8211;it just means it wasn&#8217;t going to be the right fit for someone like me (a geek).</p>
<p>E, my sentiments exactly.</p>
<p>I, agreed that it was disappointing the show didn&#8217;t bring the action to much of a resolution, since it looks like now we&#8217;ll never know. The dark underbelly of experimental (for the channel and its usual audience) tv shows&#8211;sometimes you get sucked into something that never sees the light of day&#8230;.</p>
<p>C, this probably keeps getting compared to sunshine because it is very similar. in my opinion, similar is not necessarily bad as long as it transcends its nods to other films/directors. Sunshine did so. this did not. therein lies the problem.  Agreed that new and original SF stories are rare in film, and that there are plenty of great stories that should have been made into films but for some reason have not&#8230;yet&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Craig		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3166</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I keep seeing people compare this to Sunshine, which was an entertaining movie in and of itself but it was a ripoff of a number of science fiction movies before it such as Event Horizon, Red Planet and Supernova with some serious visual nods to Alien and 2001. 

The &quot;virtual&quot; thing is played out. The Matrix owned it and the fact that writers rely on it is a cop-out in my humble opinion. Why it&#039;s so difficult to come up with a unique vision for a science fiction story is beyond me. Let&#039;s get back to basics. Hard science fiction. Not mind-game &quot;Lost&quot; like story lines that keep doors open for writers.

Foundation, Ender&#039;s Game or better yet, Dan Simmon&#039;s Hyperion would be great places to start.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep seeing people compare this to Sunshine, which was an entertaining movie in and of itself but it was a ripoff of a number of science fiction movies before it such as Event Horizon, Red Planet and Supernova with some serious visual nods to Alien and 2001. </p>
<p>The &#8220;virtual&#8221; thing is played out. The Matrix owned it and the fact that writers rely on it is a cop-out in my humble opinion. Why it&#8217;s so difficult to come up with a unique vision for a science fiction story is beyond me. Let&#8217;s get back to basics. Hard science fiction. Not mind-game &#8220;Lost&#8221; like story lines that keep doors open for writers.</p>
<p>Foundation, Ender&#8217;s Game or better yet, Dan Simmon&#8217;s Hyperion would be great places to start.</p>
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		By: Iris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I DVR&#039;d this and just finished watching it. Was disappointed when I got to the end and realized this was probably a pilot movie for a series. I did like it even though it had as those previously before have said aspects of certain scifi movies and series, like the airlock scene. But the fact that the characters were not perfect and had their flaws makes for interesting drama, no? 
What got to me though was at the end when Rika enters Pike&#039;s virtuality and he says its not real... Makes you wonder if the whole thing is a linked virtual reality mission. Alas we&#039;ll never know, if what I&#039;ve read is true and its a NO-GO on this series. Maybe the scifi channel will pick it up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DVR&#8217;d this and just finished watching it. Was disappointed when I got to the end and realized this was probably a pilot movie for a series. I did like it even though it had as those previously before have said aspects of certain scifi movies and series, like the airlock scene. But the fact that the characters were not perfect and had their flaws makes for interesting drama, no?<br />
What got to me though was at the end when Rika enters Pike&#8217;s virtuality and he says its not real&#8230; Makes you wonder if the whole thing is a linked virtual reality mission. Alas we&#8217;ll never know, if what I&#8217;ve read is true and its a NO-GO on this series. Maybe the scifi channel will pick it up?</p>
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		By: Eli		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3054</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must say, the idea of a ship&#039;s computer causing problems for a crew of varied and conflicting characters is very new for a scifi show.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve every heard of a minor repair on a space ship going horribly wrong either in one of these stories.  With original ideas like these, this show is surely a winner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say, the idea of a ship&#8217;s computer causing problems for a crew of varied and conflicting characters is very new for a scifi show.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve every heard of a minor repair on a space ship going horribly wrong either in one of these stories.  With original ideas like these, this show is surely a winner.</p>
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		By: Tim		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3035</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For what its worth, an opinion from the mainstream 18-34 demo who has never seen an episode of &quot;battlestar&quot; and doesn&#039;t even know what &quot;sunshine&quot; is.

Full disclosure, I DVR&#039;d this because I mistook it for Virtuosity (1995 - Denzel Washington).  I had never heard of this project, but watched it nonetheless.  I agree that the show lacked focus, and the unremitting desire for additional plot lines compares to that guy in your office that tries to act smarter than everyone else to feel better about himself; but at the end of the 2 hours, I was interested.  I think that given a full season to work with, character development and plot lines could work themselves into something pretty cool.

Dont worry, from what I read elsewhere, this is the end of the show and there will be nothing further; but it really seems like this was doomed from the beginning (see my line about having never heard of this show).  Perhaps some semblance of selective marketing and a reasonable time slot could have given this a chance.  Oh well, back to reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what its worth, an opinion from the mainstream 18-34 demo who has never seen an episode of &#8220;battlestar&#8221; and doesn&#8217;t even know what &#8220;sunshine&#8221; is.</p>
<p>Full disclosure, I DVR&#8217;d this because I mistook it for Virtuosity (1995 &#8211; Denzel Washington).  I had never heard of this project, but watched it nonetheless.  I agree that the show lacked focus, and the unremitting desire for additional plot lines compares to that guy in your office that tries to act smarter than everyone else to feel better about himself; but at the end of the 2 hours, I was interested.  I think that given a full season to work with, character development and plot lines could work themselves into something pretty cool.</p>
<p>Dont worry, from what I read elsewhere, this is the end of the show and there will be nothing further; but it really seems like this was doomed from the beginning (see my line about having never heard of this show).  Perhaps some semblance of selective marketing and a reasonable time slot could have given this a chance.  Oh well, back to reality.</p>
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		By: Damon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was boring, but I think the captain locked in the airlock was just a practical joke at first, but then the outside door malfunction which turned the practical joke deadly... haha i sound like a television writer now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was boring, but I think the captain locked in the airlock was just a practical joke at first, but then the outside door malfunction which turned the practical joke deadly&#8230; haha i sound like a television writer now.</p>
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		By: Elena		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3032</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh. Well, THAT I&#039;m not surprised to hear. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. Well, THAT I&#8217;m not surprised to hear. 🙂</p>
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		By: Elena		</title>
		<link>https://www.boomtron.com/virtuality-review-fox/#comment-3030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Observer, Kendall, thanks for adding some other points to those I made.

Jay, sorry!

Chris, In the first place this is a column; it is an opinion piece. In the second, I believe that calling something derivative is a valid criticism, especially when it doesn&#039;t take the parts it lifted from a different series/movie and then re-use them in a new and compelling way. But that&#039;s just, like, my opinion, man....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observer, Kendall, thanks for adding some other points to those I made.</p>
<p>Jay, sorry!</p>
<p>Chris, In the first place this is a column; it is an opinion piece. In the second, I believe that calling something derivative is a valid criticism, especially when it doesn&#8217;t take the parts it lifted from a different series/movie and then re-use them in a new and compelling way. But that&#8217;s just, like, my opinion, man&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Kendall		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a few problems with your review:

1) You made it sound way more interesting than it actually was.

2) I got the impression the mission was launched after they knew the whole 100 year thing was happening (I could easily be wrong about that one though).

3) The captain being locked in the airlock was done in the same way the outer airlock opened - that is to say, no-one did it, it just happened (that seemed like a big flaw to me, that they didn&#039;t talk about how he got locked in without a helmet to start).

My problems with the show:

1) Way too many plot points meant to lead into a series, no good sense of closure - just confusion and a feeling like the end was rushed.

2) If you&#039;re really in such desperate need of a new home, you still have a go/no go choice at all?  Don&#039;t think so, you are all going and you are going to make it work.

I agree that the fundamental premise is utterly lame, that these people can&#039;t last ten years talking to each other without the VR things attached to them.  When it starts killing people you shut it down.  When it starts raping people, you shut it down again and hack out all computer links to all system in the ship (except I guess the engine, which it seems you can&#039;t actually control without VR even though a simple robot to just select a thing and pull it out would suffice).

I also really didn&#039;t like many of the characters much, and I can&#039;t imagine watching any of a series should one come along.  I was really annoyed I wasted time watching it, and I generally am willing to tolerate a pretty weak plot and silly basis in a science fiction show.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few problems with your review:</p>
<p>1) You made it sound way more interesting than it actually was.</p>
<p>2) I got the impression the mission was launched after they knew the whole 100 year thing was happening (I could easily be wrong about that one though).</p>
<p>3) The captain being locked in the airlock was done in the same way the outer airlock opened &#8211; that is to say, no-one did it, it just happened (that seemed like a big flaw to me, that they didn&#8217;t talk about how he got locked in without a helmet to start).</p>
<p>My problems with the show:</p>
<p>1) Way too many plot points meant to lead into a series, no good sense of closure &#8211; just confusion and a feeling like the end was rushed.</p>
<p>2) If you&#8217;re really in such desperate need of a new home, you still have a go/no go choice at all?  Don&#8217;t think so, you are all going and you are going to make it work.</p>
<p>I agree that the fundamental premise is utterly lame, that these people can&#8217;t last ten years talking to each other without the VR things attached to them.  When it starts killing people you shut it down.  When it starts raping people, you shut it down again and hack out all computer links to all system in the ship (except I guess the engine, which it seems you can&#8217;t actually control without VR even though a simple robot to just select a thing and pull it out would suffice).</p>
<p>I also really didn&#8217;t like many of the characters much, and I can&#8217;t imagine watching any of a series should one come along.  I was really annoyed I wasted time watching it, and I generally am willing to tolerate a pretty weak plot and silly basis in a science fiction show.</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hey, the first sign of a weak review is when you have to compare it to something, and then in turn use it as a knock against it. You can&#039;t criticize a television series for being too similar to a film, and then go on to hate it when it does things differently than said films. I mean you can if you want to, but where&#039;s the journalistic standard? There&#039;s no real point to why the show wasn&#039;t good in your opinion, other than it comes off too much like other science fiction features. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve got a point, I just don&#039;t think you&#039;ve done a good job expressing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, the first sign of a weak review is when you have to compare it to something, and then in turn use it as a knock against it. You can&#8217;t criticize a television series for being too similar to a film, and then go on to hate it when it does things differently than said films. I mean you can if you want to, but where&#8217;s the journalistic standard? There&#8217;s no real point to why the show wasn&#8217;t good in your opinion, other than it comes off too much like other science fiction features. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve got a point, I just don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve done a good job expressing it.</p>
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		By: Observer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree. It was too made-up. Very formulaic. And I am tired of shows ripping off Matrix and that includes Battlestar (re-imagining) as well. Time to write original stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. It was too made-up. Very formulaic. And I am tired of shows ripping off Matrix and that includes Battlestar (re-imagining) as well. Time to write original stuff.</p>
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		By: Elena		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure I&#039;m being very hard on it, and I don&#039;t think it was a bad idea, just...for me it didn&#039;t work. Sincere or not, not a single character was interesting to me. I was barely curious when the captain died, and certainly didn&#039;t care. I really don&#039;t know what, exactly, they did wrong, but for me this was just not engaging.  But I could well be in the minority here!  If it&#039;s one that more people seem to like than not, then I&#039;ll be glad--I think we need more SF on network television, and not just because I happen to like it. We need to indoctrinate the next generation with ideas of space exploration. 

Thanks for the contrary thoughts, I do love to know how other people took things!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m being very hard on it, and I don&#8217;t think it was a bad idea, just&#8230;for me it didn&#8217;t work. Sincere or not, not a single character was interesting to me. I was barely curious when the captain died, and certainly didn&#8217;t care. I really don&#8217;t know what, exactly, they did wrong, but for me this was just not engaging.  But I could well be in the minority here!  If it&#8217;s one that more people seem to like than not, then I&#8217;ll be glad&#8211;I think we need more SF on network television, and not just because I happen to like it. We need to indoctrinate the next generation with ideas of space exploration. </p>
<p>Thanks for the contrary thoughts, I do love to know how other people took things!</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I took away quite a different take. The characters, while maybe played out, were certainly sincere. I really liked Sunshine, and I think the pilot (or movie, whatever) did a good job of expanding on the idea of the problems that could be faced in a near-future deep space mission.

Incorporating the dream-reality bit, and AI bad guy, was an interesting way to show how the line between virtual reality and reality itself could be blurred if not handled properly.

The plot itself was certainly enough to grip anyone. You have a show trying to establish ratings, characters who have problems with themselves, and others, as well an an under-the-nose affair that certainly casts motive on a character when a murder happens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took away quite a different take. The characters, while maybe played out, were certainly sincere. I really liked Sunshine, and I think the pilot (or movie, whatever) did a good job of expanding on the idea of the problems that could be faced in a near-future deep space mission.</p>
<p>Incorporating the dream-reality bit, and AI bad guy, was an interesting way to show how the line between virtual reality and reality itself could be blurred if not handled properly.</p>
<p>The plot itself was certainly enough to grip anyone. You have a show trying to establish ratings, characters who have problems with themselves, and others, as well an an under-the-nose affair that certainly casts motive on a character when a murder happens.</p>
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