44 responses to “Back to the Future…with a Warhammer”

  1. webb_amos

    You are hitting the nail on the head. The setting of 40k is what makes the game fun. Humanity toiling away to build for armies that get sacrificed in countless and often needless conflicts. Untold worlds destroyed in blinks of an eye, demons, monsters, aliens! Anything you can think of is in 40k. What more could you ask for?

  2. Wil

    Aaron, I really liked what you had to say about the 40K universe. It’s the same way I feel about it. I love reading the novels and even the ones based on the Horus Heresy as well.

    Your right that it’s dark and that there is no hope for humanity and that some psykers are sacrificed each month to keep the God Emperor’s rotting corpse lighting the way for warp travel.

    I’ll keep let you know if I have anything on my mind on anything 40k even 30K even. I have a feeling you’ll do well with this column.

  3. Chris Young

    well put.

    the thing that drew me most to 40k is how I could totally see this happening to mankind, and how in some respects, it already has.

  4. Big

    Its attachment to history is what grabbed me just over 23 years ago,a fine intro to a wonderfull hobby. On top of all that glorious background its the close knit gaming and social community that i would recomend to anyone and everyone!

  5. Vic Patino

    right on the money n00bski-bowden! the best part about warhammer and warhammer 40k is the Warhammer universe and the lore writen by yourself and all of the other BL/GW writers past, present, and future. personaly, i hate playing the game, i’ve played my ork army 1 time in 17 years, and my epic army about 16 years ago. but i read all the books i can possibly get my grubby little chubby fingers on. the Codex’s, the index’s, the Omibie and the art books. all have a prominant place in my collection, and i am very very proud of them. I wish you good luck on your column, off to a fine start. :)

  6. greywulf

    A great first article, ADB.

    You managed to sum up the very reason that I was so engrossed when I picked up my first Black Library 40k. Everything is broken, it can’t be fixed, it can only get worse, yet it’s the struggle, the constant fall into the grimdark that makes the 40k universe interesting to me.

  7. Khestra the Unbeheld

    Hi, nerd here.

    When I was growing up, and I’m only a couple of years older than you are, Mr. Dembski-Bowden, the basis of my existence was the Cold War. Growing up in West Germany at the behest of the US Army, the Cold War permeated every facet of my life, and there are few things more integral to getting on with life than the knowledge that there were Soviets living 90km away, and that they meant to do me harm if they could. As such, its culture also permeated all the facets of my life. I had GI Joe on the television along with the myriad of ’80s cartoons, but they didn’t give me the whole story, and as such didn’t impress me even back then. See, running on a life of paranoia can’t take Disney seriously, and isn’t interested in doing so. I absorbed the GI Joe comics rather than the cartoon because the comics were bloodbaths, and to my perception the cartoon (where no one died unless you were a Cobra BAT) was a cop-out to the reality. When the first push to bring Japanese anime to television screens came along, I avidly watched Mobile Suit Gundam and Robotech/Macross because in spite of the astounding heroism, they didn’t shrink from the carnage inherent in that heroism, and sometimes the good guys lost no matter what they did. Star Wars? Yes, please, especially Empire Strikes Back. Killin’ yo’ gunner, killin’ yo’ wingmen, blowin’ up yo’ base, chasin’ yo’ friends, torturin’ yo’ homeboy, cuttin’ off yo’ hand. . .all in all, a pretty bleak time for our heroes, and really good time to be a fan of the Empire.

    Warhammer 40K picks at that same need, a fiction that can be taken seriously because it doesn’t hide from the fact that things die and heroes can lose. That feels more real to me than any All Dogs Go To Heaven sell, and the real allows me to immerse in it. I love that about the Grimdark, that combination of cynical realism and optimistic heroism resonates with me. An entire galaxy desperately ekeing out an existence while living under having been dealt the worst hand possible constantly? Sounds like the old party to me.

  8. Kidjal

    I ate up that post with relish (and mustard.) Sums everything up.. And Khestra’s post too, was really interesting. Thanks

  9. RayeRaye

    Loving this article. You’ve really managed to sum up what makes the 40k universe so engaging and special. The models are one thing, but the background is something else altogether. It’s rich, complex and full of tragedy.

    I’m looking forward to the next instalment.

  10. GDMNW

    Bang on, the three words you use are each insightful.

    I’d like to see a similar article about Warhammer 30,000, a background you are also familiar with. I’d be interested to read some of your thoughts about that. Especially if you held it up against the soiled light of the grimdark.

  11. Porky

    This is the most mature post I’ve read at this blog. I hope you can keep that up.

    The 40K universe is satire. It’s a marker of what we would probably want to avoid. Words are only words until the reality they describe is felt, but I’d hope enough of us 40K players, modellers, painters and readers sense the horror of that reality that we help keep it pure fiction.

    1. Porky

      I take that first sentence back, with apologies to the people behind this website – I thought this was AD-B’s blog. This is the most mature post by AD-B I’ve read, and I hope he can keep this up.

      1. Andreas

        I dont. I love Aaron’s hatefull in-you’r-face ravings. Not that this was’nt spot on :)

  12. Farmer_geddon

    I think in describing the GrimDark, you’ve made me realise why, at a similar age to yourself Mr DB, I am still an avid gamer, painter, and devourer of 40K fluff. The simple aspects (mini’s, super soldiers, cool aliens) got me hooked at an early age, and the developed harshness and… GrimDark of 40K has kept me hooked.
    Cheers!

  13. Forkmaster

    You nailed it on the spot! Couldnt have explained this much better myself. Im not sure what draws me into the game. At first I was a strict IG-player, loyal to the Emperor.

    But further I read and the deeper I get into the hobby, Im leaning towards Chaos. They are more interesting somehow, and I would say Im corrupted. Damn I so wish I would become a writer on this hobby like yourself, but my english is lacking as well my pontetial. :)

  14. Isaac

    “Niche within a niche”

    That’s the phrase I’ve been looking for to describe my geekiness all this time, thank you!

    Also, great article.

  15. VigRoco

    “Well, I empathise a bit. I also think you’re a nerd, but we can still be friends.”

    I love it when nerds reveal the levels of nerdiarchy we all follow. Reading Warhammer 40K lit isn’t really that far from LARPing.

  16. Irregular Joe

    Excellent first article, chap.

    40k really is one of those unique IP’s that can’t help but keep giving.
    Despite having some rules set in stone, when you look closer, you realise that there is almost limitless scope to what you can do with it, and no matter the particular subject, there is always something interesting about it, some extra level, there are always rough edges, dark sides to everything..

    Star Wars, despite being a love of mine that will never die, has started to suffer from ultra-retconning and over-saturation of stories for stories’ sake.

    I like to think that 40k has avoided that pitfall.
    I would almost want to say that it’s not quite tie-in media, that despite a healthy fanbase, it’s not a huge global phenomena that has spawned the need for additional items alongside the main product.

    Black Library has spawned fairly naturally from the body of ideas that formed around the game. Sure, at initial conception everything was a bit of a mash, but I doubt anybody can say that individualising the various parts and building upon first ideas is a bad thing.

    Can’t wait to see what you do with your new soapbox Aaron, it’ll be nice to see your take on some of the unwritten parts of the 40k/30k universe, all power to you!

  17. Dave

    I liked this. I think we’ve had a discussion like this before where you said many of the same things to me, but in a much more condensed form, when I showed an initial curiosity about 40k.

  18. DVK

    This should be the new front page of the GW site, and be printed out and tacked up on the wall of all hobby stores (not ‘booby’ stores, although my iPhone insists it be so).

  19. paul

    Loved the article. For me, 40k has always been a world where humankind’s god is dead. It’s not only a terrific game, but also a great meta-commentary on human depravity.

  20. Phillip Sobel

    Great first post Aaron, welcome to BSC Review…can I now call you m’colleague? :)

  21. Jeremiah

    It is the tragedy of the setting which creates such a mystique. The customary ideas of good vs evil have been smeared. All sides are flawed and use any means necessary to further their cause, which may be a greater parallel to the past and current world we live in. The Gothic and Baroque overtones give the the stories such richness, culture, and texture that is missing from other SciFi genres, all the while giving contrast to a far future where there is only war.

    You and your colleagues at Black Library keep doing an excellent job fleshing out and giving breath to the 40K universe and history.

  22. Big

    Memory lane for me this morning, i remember saving up my pocket money an gettin on that Victoria Line after school, shit if my mum knew she woulda gone mad like,… thinkin back she probably knew after all Gw stuff appearing in the house kinda gives it away. The Plaza store was my destination and to me it was the finest place to be in the world , there was games goin on an painted minis on display and the walls were covered in models..hundreds and hundreds of models, so many in fact i spent about 2 hours browsing an fantasizing about which one was the toughest which army was gonna be the best hahhahaha man the innocence of youth!…Thanks for the trip down memory lane Aaron!

  23. Alex

    I wouldn’t even say that 40k lit is tie-in fiction anymore or won’t be in the very near future. It’s had such explosive growth over the past 5/6 years with the DOW series and BL really taking off that the formerly ancillary BL is taking on a life of it’s own.

    No longer is it just something that churns out tie-in books to sell off the back off the tabletop game but it’s attracting large numbers of people that don’t and never will play the game.

    @irregular_Joe 40k isn’t adverse to some fairly bad retcons at times. The fate of Fulgrim is one that springs to mind but on the whole you’re right. It certainly hasn’t reached the silliness of comic book retconning or Star Wars.

    1. Simon

      And then there’s that other retcon – the complete switch of the Tyrannids from the squishy odd things of the Big Blue Book ™ to the Giger-esque creatures of later editions. One of the BL authors at the recent SFX Weekender alluded to others during the session on “Tie-in novels”.

  24. Andy Hoare

    I’d just like to back up this…

    “Kids like it, sure. It’s got war in it, and it’s a developed, cool setting. The ties to the game bring in a lot of younger readers, though it’d be a lie to say I – and, I assume, my colleagues – are writing for that age group.”

    Mr ADB’s spot on. As a studio games developer of 8 years and an author and freelance rpg writer for the last 2, I can say I’ve always written for myself, and that’s always been the brief. The thing is, when we were kids, we didn’t want to play or read what the cool kids were playing or reading – we read above our reading age and aspired to what we perceived as cooler, more adult pastimes. For me, that’s what made Rogue Trader so cool, and hopefully the tradition will continue for many more years to come.

  25. Simon

    I always was a fan of the various flavours of Warhammer – through WFB2, through the RPG and Rogue Trader to the present day – and somehow I always preferred the setting to the actual painting and moving the figures (I’m better at imagining than I am with a brush). I’m glad that the people handling the related imagining these days have the same love of the grim dark. It always struck me how the Space Marines carried that dual role – being both the final heroic defenders of mankind and the oppressive (power)fist that is the last resort when humans attempt to choose their own way.

    (It probably says something that the other games I’ve recently been re-immersing in are SLA and Dark Conspiracy, which also share the air of crushed dreams and rearguard actions against destroyed hopes.)

  26. Commissar Ploss

    Aaron, you’ve done a wonderful job describing my own feelings about the universe as well. i played it as a kid, and have grown to love the evolution of the system as a game and a universe. it’s been glorious to watch it grow up with me. I’ll always be a diehard, and writing in the universe will continue to be my passion for some time.

    Commissar Ploss

  27. Mors Nunquam Indulgeo

    Mr. AD-B, I have tried to explain the 40k universe to my friends and family for years and I have never and probably will never be able to deliver it as eloquently or effectively as you did in this article. On a side note I hope you are allowed to write “Sevatar’s Bad Day”. Cheers. Death to the False Emperor.

  28. Zach Sparks

    You are completely right, what makes the Warhammer 40k universe so appealing is that in most Scifi franchises, such as Star Trek, Star-wars, Andromeda, etc. they show the universe that we all hope for, where as in the Universe of war-hammer 40k, god has completely abandon his children. Its very interesting.

  29. Templar

    I think you nailed it on the head, pretty well. There are times when I wish the story would have a happy ending, or a sense of hope, but after thinking about it, that would just muck things up abit, wouldn’t it.

    Nothing like a heroic last stand to stir the blood.

  30. seth

    I was obsessed with WW2 in my youth, and my long suffering girlfriend still weathers the occasional documentary or three when I catch one on the telly. The influence on 40k tech is obvious as you note, but I really agree with you that the sense of dread and desperation that permeated the two wars from a british perspective IS grimdark.

    I’m an avid Iron Warriors collector [although I dabble with small Night Lords squads hence my interest in your books] and the sort of battles they engage in are in the vein of WW1 siege and trench warfare which we don’t really see these days.

    I think the finest point in your books so far was when it was noted that the night lords in their drop pod were now so few in number and their armour scavenged in pieces which showed that Chaos are suffering the same sort of decay as the loyalists, if not worse.

    N.B not sure how it works in terms of ‘oh ADB has monopoly on night lords, mc neil has monopoly on iron warriors etc’ in the Black Library/Lenton, but it would be nice to see you tackle some other chaos legions too.

    Also, how did you feel about tackling serious fluff that had remained untouched, for example, without giving any spoilers away, why the title ‘soul hunter’ was given by kurze. Somewhat brave to give one’s own character such a prestigious honour. Then again whoever dreamed up Zho Sahal was also content to make them head of 1st company and the inventor of assault squads I guess. Thoughts?

    1. Jack

      Read Soul Hunter again. Talos Title is explained

      1. seth

        jack: Read my comment again.
        I’ve read soul hunter -_-

        My point was ADB gave his character a sizeably important part of the fluff, and I was wondering how he felt about making a character he created have an important role in the estalished 40k background. Up until recently it was left somewhat up in the air as to if even curze had been killed or the fate of the assassin. Authors in the black library don’t often do that – plenty have their stories not impact of the history of the chapter or legion.

        1. Alex

          The BL authors already invent new characters and fit them into the existing fluff. In many ways they’ve taken over from the codexes in being the main way for new fluff to be introduced.

          Hell 90% of the Horus Heresy line is newly invented stuff or retconned such as Fulgrim’s story. I don’t really think Aaron has done anything out of the ordinary.

          Besides everyone knew that Curze had died, otherwise his final words would have been utterly pointless. The doubt was put there in classic 40k style just to create a debate

          1. seth

            Aye there was alot of it in the heresy books, after all the intention of those was to flesh out the background. I simply found it interesting as I still maintain that its not often done.

  31. Duke_Leto

    ADB – absolutely on the nail! It is the sheer hopelessness that makes it all so appealing. Personally I hate the “swish spandex cleanness” of things like Star Trek. I grew up with (original) STAR WARS (what a heap of junk – a heavy dose of 70s cynicism), DUNE (fantasy religious feudalism) and ALIEN (dirty space truckers) and W40k is the logical conclusion to this.

  32. Mitchell

    Hey Aaron,

    Big fan of your novels, currently building up a Night Lords warband after reading Soul Hunter for the 3rd time.

    I quite like your overall view of the 40k universe, it’s great. I guess it really shoves the fact in your face that this story of the galaxy is hostile, and no matter how much you want your favorite army to win, it will probably die almost unremembered in the gritty, bleak existance of humanity.

    I’d love for you to shoot me a message sometime, if you don’t mind. Just to discuss things such as existing novels and all (obviously not what you have in mind as that would be a breach of your job).

    Thanks for your time! Hopefully you read this!

    Looking forward to your new NL novel! As well as potential books in the future!

  33. Michael

    Aaron, if I were as eloquent as you I could have written thin piece, right down to your age and the picture from the first ed of WH40K.

    I’ve only just picked up Horus Rising after years of thinking ‘tie-in? Hpmuh, no thanks’, and am kicking myself for waiting this long. well, no, not true; I now have a dozen novels to be read one after the other. No waiting between books for me!

    Sir, you are a talented writer and I, among the others here, love your work and share your passion. Write on, good man, write on.

  34. Gary

    This is what makes 40k unique is through the lavish background (through novels and codex) and your description is the boldest way of putting it.

    Another aspect of 40k I particularly enjoy is that anyone can create their own little piece to the universe by fighting battles (with miniatures basically) and writing stories which for some turn out to be great novels.

    Your works are particularly fantastic (The first heretic, which you signed for me so thanks for that, soul hunter, which I can’t wait to continue with when blood reaver is released and Helsreach, currently reading).

    Keep up the good work and all other authors of novels/codex who fill this universe with much more stories for people to read upon to get inspiration and/or to enjoy some good old action

  35. Mossy

    Hmmm….from these replies, it seems like your sermon’s mostly gone to the choir. That said, being a member of said choir, I really, really must echo the absolute wave of “nail, head (hitting)” comments that have been made. I don’t think that any other author from BL (apart from perhaps Mr. Farrer) has captured 40k in a vision so close to what I hold in my own head as you have.

    So…thank you.

  36. Anton

    There’s only one thing I can say against all written above. ‘If it’s all that bad, why bother?’ Being all grim, dark and black is good when you’re 14, your father grounded you, you love a girl who doesn’t notice you, your friends are jerks and you the world to go crashing down, not knowing that you don’t have even the smallest idea what a real life is.

    But as one gets older and gets that not too plesant experience, stories consisting only of black don’t appeal that much anymore. And that’s where WH40K is different from many other stories – there is a brighter side. Despite all degeneration, all that death and misery, people still have hope and there is still something greater and bigger in the world rather than ‘you work 25 hours a day at the foundry your whole life and then you die’. After all, soldiers making their final stand, make it for someone – be it Emperor, their family back hope or something else.

    Or maybe I’m just imagining things.

  37. J. Grammaticus

    This is going to be my “explanatory link” from now on, which I will send to anyone asking about what do I see in w40k, great article ADB.

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